c-section and destiny

[Bargainhunter]

Hi,

Since bazi will determine how much potential one has, will determining the time and date of birth of a child's birth by c-section helps in improving a child's bazi and hence his future potential? Does it be seen as defying the " laws of nature" and thus will be " compensated" in other aspects?

is c-section encouraged to alter the future?

[Ken]

Hi Bargainhunter,

Your question is something that a lot of astrology enthuasiasts may have thought about it before.

From a logical standpoint, I think it works within a particular boundary.  It is a bit like a Fengshui master giving advice to an adult and he avoided a fatal car accident because of that.  If that adult has potential to be saved, he will bump into this Fengshui master.  If the adult has no potential to be saved, he may instead bump into a quack Fengshui master.

But a Fengshui master is no miracle healer.  If the change is too drastic or not within the allowable boundaries of that person's destiny, there is no way the Fengshui master can change the outcome.  For example, the Fengshui master could have selected a good date and time for the C-section but unfortunately, either the doctor gets into accident on way to hospital for the surgery or complication of the mother's or baby's condition arise that they have to take out the baby earlier.

As to whether someone have to pay the price for changing the course of destiny, this is something no master dare guarantee.  Although one of the conventional argument is - if helping someone avoid death is changing destiny and punishable, then should not doctors that cure those terminally ill ones be also punishable?

[Bargainhunter]

Hi Ken,

Do u tink intelligence is inherited? I read from many books ( non chinese astrology) that intelligence is in-born. Successful people will most probably have successful children as it is genetically inherited.

But I cannot figure out why only intelligent or successful people will have kids born with good bazi . I view having good bazi without human's interference as just a random event. Like what u mentioned, it must be within particular boundary.Could it be  kids who dun have good bazi born to intelligent parents, become intelligent due to the environment. Like what is frequently discussed, with enough conditioning, a grade B chart might perform better than grade A chart.If that's the case, intelligence is not in born.

Thanks

[Ken]

Hi Bargainhunter,

I used to think intelligence is inherited.  But after getting so deep into astrology, I take the stand it is not inherited.  I may get slammed by scientists who research DNA mapping theories for all I care.  If everything is inherited, the consistency of the character and intelligence among siblings should not differ so much.

There are some cases that siblings characteristics and intelligence differ markedly.  Of course, opponents against my argument will say that environmental conditioning is the variable that caused such differences.  On this point, I do not disagree.  There are some charts that suggest the character of the person may not be too upright but yet he has the potential to be moulded or changed by the environment.  Some of such cases actually had the chart owner as an upright person. 

Interestingly though, everyone is linked to each other by karma.  For those families whereby the intelligence differed among the children, it actually showed in the parent's charts.  End of day, my view is DNA or environment, karmic destiny is still the number one influence.  DNA, as a non-karmic form of destiny ranks second while environment ranks third.  There has not been much writeups or research on karmic destiny except 三世书 and the Karma Palace within ZWDS.  That's why I think anyone serious about having a good grasp of destiny to take up ZWDS courses as it blends in karmic destiny with destiny.

[Willy]

Hi Bargainhunter,

Your question is something that a lot of astrology enthuasiasts may have thought about it before.

From a logical standpoint, I think it works within a particular boundary.  It is a bit like a Fengshui master giving advice to an adult and he avoided a fatal car accident because of that.  If that adult has potential to be saved, he will bump into this Fengshui master.  If the adult has no potential to be saved, he may instead bump into a quack Fengshui master.

But a Fengshui master is no miracle healer.  If the change is too drastic or not within the allowable boundaries of that person's destiny, there is no way the Fengshui master can change the outcome.  For example, the Fengshui master could have selected a good date and time for the C-section but unfortunately, either the doctor gets into accident on way to hospital for the surgery or complication of the mother's or baby's condition arise that they have to take out the baby earlier.

As to whether someone have to pay the price for changing the course of destiny, this is something no master dare guarantee.  Although one of the conventional argument is - if helping someone avoid death is changing destiny and punishable, then should not doctors that cure those terminally ill ones be also punishable?

I would think that even having the chance for a c-section is the result of good karma, be it the efforts of the ancestor, parents or who ever you can think of. Without good karma, one might even 'select' the 'wrong' date for a c-section.

[pearl lowe]

Hi Master Ken,

 I am new to your site and I am glad / surprise  to hear that Karmic pillar  is incorporated in ZWDS. Can you please explain a  little about it as I am really curious. From my understading past & sometimes many past & even present karma can ripen anytime. So how does that action then get included in a ZWDS. How wold that differ from the 4 Pillars  eg  I heard in Bazi class that Harms in Bazi chart is one result of karmic.


Thank you kindly

Pearl

[Ken]

Hi pearl,

First in ZWDS, there is a clear link between Karmic cause and Karmic effect, which in Mandarin we term it 因果报应.  However, this Karmic effect exists since birth, so it says nothing about Karma created in the current life.  Astrology charts are by themselve non-dynamic, although we try to improve this element by adding in posterior probablity concepts to it and using divination skills to complement it.

I find to term Harms in Bazi as Karmic in nature is true but too generalize.  It is like saying I got good health/career/wealth/marriage all can be attributed to good Karma.  So it does not appear very convincing to me.  As for ZWDS, there is a star that represents cause and another that represents effect.  So it is easier to persuade me that Karmic links are incorporated into ZWDS.