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« on: November 03, 2009, 07:00:48 AM »

Hi everyone,
I have a question.
What does a clash to resource/thinking (when it's favourable) mean?
And is it the same with every element? e.g. Xin sitting on Mao, Gui sitting on Si etc etc...

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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2009, 12:24:39 AM »

hi quills,
looks like you shuttling between Bazi and zwds, welcome back to Bazi world.   Grin

Some of the possiblities of Resource being clash:
1.  health issue
2.  Mother issue
3.  Intelligence issue (less wise).

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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2009, 06:50:49 PM »

Hi Gemini,
thanks for replying me Smiley

ya.. my head works in a weird way... lol...

I've asked about my chart probably around million times already here but somehow i always fail to stay focus... sigh.
Sorry Gemini, just if you're not busy.

Ding  Gui  Xin  Bing
Si     You  Mao  Yin

Focusing on the resource now. What are the possible issue?
Health wise, mother issue and less wise issue.

Last time, you asked me once what my mother was like in the other post when I was asking about my chart. So I'm just curious if it has anything to do with anything. Know what I mean? Tongue
She's the fussy, impatient and nagging type, but very kind, can always get things done and she's super street smart (even much more than dad), career woman, housewife and she's very religious too but realistic type. Can't begin to explain how amazing she is. So anyway... what does it mean?
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2009, 06:51:59 AM »

Hi Gemini  Smiley

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Some of the possiblities of Resource being clash:
1.  health issue
2.  Mother issue
3.  Intelligence issue (less wise).

Are these the effects of a clash to resource/thinking when it's FAVOURABLE too?

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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2009, 10:36:13 AM »

Hi quills,
i did not forget your chart, just trying to find time to study more.

Hi beaudy,
for item 1 and 2, it is regardless favorable or unfavorable.
for item 3, generally will refer to it when favorable.

You have been jolting a lot ppl memory by reviving many threads.   Grin   Want to try your hand on below tournament??
http://fengshuiforward.com/forum/index.php/topic,1517.msg12458.html#new
The spirit is the more the merrier.  Wink
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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2009, 03:06:59 PM »

hi quills,
the resource clash in your chart, can refer to your character, mother and health.  When each will happen will depend on the trigger by LP/AP. 

Ding  Gui  Xin  Bing
Si     You  Mao  Yin

Character
1.  Tends to stress over whether to wait and see, or should i do it now. 
2.  you make friends but dun trust people easily, possibly you worry about betrayal.
3.  Your thought tends to be swayed when money is involved.  Do you go on shopping spree when stress??

Family
1.  Your parents have very good relationship, with Mother usually the decision maker.
2.  Parents priority is always children (or you)
3.  Grandparents also cares very much for your generation.
4.  Mother relationship with your granny might not be good, but she got the support from your father
5.  Mother is very good at networking.   
6.  Father is workaholic, not much common topics in discussion

You ask about last year interaction and Ken analyse as you graduate from school, did I recall correctly?
Just curious, how's was 2005?  Was there stress over relationship?  There was a Fan Yin to your Month Pillar, so wonder how it relates to your parents/seniors.

Most of the analysis is focus on your Resource, I wrote more than what you had ask, hopefully it is appropriate and appreciate your feedback for my learning.   Smiley


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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2009, 04:26:36 PM »

Hi Gemini,
thank you sooooo much for this Smiley


Character
1.  Tends to stress over whether to wait and see, or should i do it now.
2.  you make friends but dun trust people easily, possibly you worry about betrayal.
3.  Your thought tends to be swayed when money is involved.  Do you go on shopping spree when stress??

1. Very true. Getting confused is like an everyday thing for me. Is there any cure? But it's kinda good because then I can try to see from others' point of view. If it's important for them, then it'll be much easier for me to decide things. But other times, I get stuck and everything gets messy... Tongue I guess that explains the EG IR clash in some way?

2. Very true as well. I find it very hard to believe that anyone would wanna be my friend. Always feel like I'm not good enough or I would disappoint them at some stage and yeah, betrayal.

3. Swayed when money is involved, yes, but I don't prioritize it at all. Shopping spree when stress also true, but I thought that's normal for most girls? Which they regret afterwards Tongue I don't do it often though.


Family
1.  Your parents have very good relationship, with Mother usually the decision maker.
2.  Parents priority is always children (or you)
3.  Grandparents also cares very much for your generation.
4.  Mother relationship with your granny might not be good, but she got the support from your father
5.  Mother is very good at networking.  
6.  Father is workaholic, not much common topics in discussion


1. Mom and Dad have strong relationship but always argue. So it's good to a certain stage. But these days they both
    have been trying to understand each other.
2. Yes, me and my lil sister. How does it show?
3. That's true as well, they used to play with me and my cousins all the time and would b really sad each time we left
     them. Cos we live in different city. But now, only Granny from mom's side left.
4. That's very true as well.
5. She's GREAT at networking Tongue I can't even stand her she's so talkative... lol... yeah, but she can talk to anyone from
    any department and she would even learn new things at her age, which I find amazing. She didn't even go to uni Tongue
    Oh, and my mom is pretty too Tongue Does it show from my chart? Tongue
6. True again.

You ask about last year interaction and Ken analyse as you graduate from school, did I recall correctly?
Just curious, how's was 2005?  Was there stress over relationship?  There was a Fan Yin to your Month Pillar, so wonder how it relates to your parents/seniors.

Most of the analysis is focus on your Resource, I wrote more than what you had ask, hopefully it is appropriate and appreciate your feedback for my learning.   Smiley


Yeap, I was actually asking about the Mao Zi punishment thingy for 2008. So you were right, wow... amazing memory Gemini.

2005: mmm... that was the year I started my first job actually. Had two part time jobs while studying full time, and some relationship drama, I cheated on my x bf that year. Can we see it from the chart? And this is where my superior interfered. They were sort of spying on me. Complicated. Can bazi explain that detail though?

2006 was actually the bad one, lots of things changed, we broke up that year and I lost one of my jobs because of misunderstanding.
Both year are quite tough.

Since most of your guesses were true, would you mind sharing the theory behind them, Gemini?
I really appreciate your time. My IR is so thirsty for information Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2009, 05:35:00 PM »

Hi quills,
thanks for the feedback.   Smiley

1. Very true. Getting confused is like an everyday thing for me. Is there any cure? But it's kinda good because then I can try to see from others' point of view. If it's important for them, then it'll be much easier for me to decide things. But other times, I get stuck and everything gets messy... Tongue I guess that explains the EG IR clash in some way?
EG = Output = Do it
IR = Resource = Wait and See
Your chart is Output structure which is also your basic nature, so there is tendency to rush into decision. 
Resource is your sixth sense trying to control your impulsive, but you do not trust your sixth sense at times due to counter/combination in the chart.
Cure = trust your sixth sense. 

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2. Very true as well. I find it very hard to believe that anyone would wanna be my friend. Always feel like I'm not good enough or I would disappoint them at some stage and yeah, betrayal.
Some book termed Mao You clash as betrayal clash.  It is advise ppl with this clash has to think twice before becoming a guarantor.  Watch for years of You and Mao. 

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3. Swayed when money is involved, yes, but I don't prioritize it at all. Shopping spree when stress also true, but I thought that's normal for most girls? Which they regret afterwards Tongue I don't do it often though.
Was trying to relate the combo of your resource with wealth in both Stem and Branch.

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1. Mom and Dad have strong relationship but always argue. So it's good to a certain stage. But these days they both
    have been trying to understand each other.
Resource (Mother) and Wealth (Father) in combo in Stems and Branch

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2. Yes, me and my lil sister. How does it show?
Bing Xin combo resultant in Water.  Water is you (and siblings). 

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3. That's true as well, they used to play with me and my cousins all the time and would b really sad each time we left
     them. Cos we live in different city. But now, only Granny from mom's side left.
Bing Xin combo and Yin Mao 1/2 combo.  Using Palace, parents and grandparents used to be closed. 
I think Grandparents tends to spoil the grandchildren.

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4. That's very true as well.
Mao You clash.  Decode based on the 10 gods. 

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5. She's GREAT at networking Tongue I can't even stand her she's so talkative... lol... yeah, but she can talk to anyone from
    any department and she would even learn new things at her age, which I find amazing. She didn't even go to uni Tongue
Resource in combo at Stem and Branch.

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    Oh, and my mom is pretty too Tongue Does it show from my chart? Tongue
I can't tell yet, skill not powerful.   Tongue

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6. True again.
Wealth star in career palace.  Unfavorable God in father's palace.

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2005: mmm... that was the year I started my first job actually. Had two part time jobs while studying full time, and some relationship drama, I cheated on my x bf that year. Can we see it from the chart? And this is where my superior interfered. They were sort of spying on me. Complicated. Can bazi explain that detail though?
So the Fan Yin is referring to Superiors. 
You You punishment must be referring to your action, which must hv resulted in your remorse.

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2006 was actually the bad one, lots of things changed, we broke up that year and I lost one of my jobs because of misunderstanding.
Both year are quite tough.
Mis 2006.  Heaven and Stem combo with Month Pillar.
From a full clash (2005) to full combo (2006), don't wonder you feel tough.  Good that is all over.   Wink

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I really appreciate your time. My IR is so thirsty for information Tongue
Hope it quench your thirst.  Will write more if I see more things.
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2009, 09:35:43 PM »

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Oh, and my mom is pretty too  Does it show from my chart?
I can't tell yet, skill not powerful.
Mother to a Gui Water is Xin Metal. Xin Metal is diamond - pretty.
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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2009, 04:21:45 PM »


EG = Output = Do it
IR = Resource = Wait and See
Your chart is Output structure which is also your basic nature, so there is tendency to rush into decision. 
Resource is your sixth sense trying to control your impulsive, but you do not trust your sixth sense at times due to counter/combination in the chart.
Cure = trust your sixth sense. 

yeah, i've been trying to do that. but it's not easy when the mood is not in. have to learn more.
how do you calm yourself, Gemini? would you share? Smiley

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Some book termed Mao You clash as betrayal clash.  It is advise ppl with this clash has to think twice before becoming a guarantor.  Watch for years of You and Mao.

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Resource (Mother) and Wealth (Father) in combo in Stems and Branch.
Bing Xin combo resultant in Water.  Water is you (and siblings). 


Wow... so many things can be explained by combo. Quite surprised.
But btw, Bing Xin still result in water despite of the season?

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Bing Xin combo and Yin Mao 1/2 combo.  Using Palace, parents and grandparents used to be closed. 
I think Grandparents tends to spoil the grandchildren.
Mmm... they don't really spoil us actually... it's more like, my parents and my uncles aunties spend more money on them... Providing both sides, their parents and children... Honestly, I don't really remember being with my grandparents. that much. So I could be wrong.
I find it a bit difficult to understand this part.
How do Yin Mao 1/2 combo to wood and Bing Xin combo refer to they "used to be closed" and that they tend to spoil the grandkids?

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Resource in combo at Stem and Branch.
Mom's being good in networking is because her element in my chart goes to combine here and there? Tongue
Do you mean YOU SI in branch and Bing Xin combo in stem?

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Wealth star in career palace.  Unfavorable God in father's palace.
Father's palace being month branch yes? Wealth star is Ding or Si? How about Bing? Mmm... bit confused here, help? Tongue

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Miss 2006.  Heaven and Stem combo with Month Pillar.
From a full clash (2005) to full combo (2006), don't wonder you feel tough.  Good that is all over.   Wink
Wonder what would happen during Bing Xu LP... scared... Sad

Thank you Gemini Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2009, 05:58:45 PM »

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Oh, and my mom is pretty too  Does it show from my chart?
I can't tell yet, skill not powerful.
Mother to a Gui Water is Xin Metal. Xin Metal is diamond - pretty.

Hi lcly,
I can see the logic behind this, but how about this?

Bing    Xin   Ji     Wu
Shen  Wei  Wei  Chen

Mom is pretty still. But how does it show through this one? (It's my sister's btw).

Oh this is random, I just realised that my stems are each my family member's DM.
Dad's Bing, Mom's Ding and sis' Xin... hehehe... faith Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2009, 10:50:07 PM »

If their Day Pillar is in your any pillar it means that you very concern about them. Simply like "you have them in your heart".

For example, based on your sister's chart. If your father is Bing Shen day pillar, you find Bing Shen in your sister hour pillar it means your sister is very concern about her father - having him in her heart.
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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2009, 11:59:57 AM »

If their Day Pillar is in your any pillar it means that you very concern about them. Simply like "you have them in your heart".

For example, based on your sister's chart. If your father is Bing Shen day pillar, you find Bing Shen in your sister hour pillar it means your sister is very concern about her father - having him in her heart.

hi lcly,
thx for the extra info.
That's so sweet!
I know it's so true for my sis' case, she's closer to dad than mom. But I thought she loves me more... disappointed now... hahaha... jk Tongue

But, really? is that true? Sounds more superstitious type instead of formula like typical Bazi.
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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2009, 12:18:34 PM »

Hi quills,

It may look supersititious but Bazi is also about affinity.  When you see the pillar replicated in the other person's chart, it speaks about the affinity.  Wink
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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2009, 01:25:10 PM »

Hi Ken,

Affinity. Yes. Smiley

it's the same thing in ZWDS, isn't it, on how in the couple chart your spouse palace is your partner's life palace?
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