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« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2009, 08:39:12 PM » |
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Hi bazisuanming, Oh dear, I did not know I was quoted  What really bothers me is when I am quoted out of context. I do not really hang out at Danny's network. But maybe I can go take a look  Read again what I wrote. I put the relevant part in bold
And with him it can easily happen that he quotes your comment as the personal belief of Master Ken, as he is quite comfortable with quoting in and out of context as long it suits his (mis)understanding. LOL
I just asked you to be careful about what you comment to Paulo, as he uses and misuses peoples comments as he sees fit. Nothing to get angry about, it's just his nature. Typical Teutonic spite, duly ignored. If i ever quoted Ken,i didnt mention his name, cause hes always been a courteous person, but i bet the spiteful teuton will ry to find something LOL |
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« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2009, 08:45:56 PM » |
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Hi bazisuanming, I was replying to a forum discussion thread started by slayer, no intention to teach on my part. :  As for your other 3 comments, you interpreted what was posted to be my stand when I was merely providing translated excerpts of the Chinese text that I found. For example, I never meant that Yang Ren has to be lethal. I am not interpreting anything  My comment about you teaching was meant more in a joking manner. This why the use of the emoticon. You know by now my attitude towards interpretation and use of Shen Sha. This so called Masters teaching their western and westernized audience have mutilated this subject so badly, that there are too many funny ideas and very little substance about it. Sadly, the simplified interpretations found in most Chinese books don't help either. Slayer (Paulo) just does his normal cross checking in as many places as he thinks could give him some additional information. The whole issue about Yang Ren in his chart started in Danny's network. And with him it can easily happen that he quotes your comment as the personal belief of Master Ken, as he is quite comfortable with quoting in and out of context as long it suits his (mis)understanding. LOL Take care bzsm And you of couse know the the secret of Shen Sha. Sorry im not curious |
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« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2009, 10:58:23 PM » |
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And you of couse know the the secret of Shen Sha. Sorry im not curious
Just following the proper rules of the system. Nothing secret. |
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« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2009, 11:16:20 PM » |
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And you of couse know the the secret of Shen Sha. Sorry im not curious
Just following the proper rules of the system. Nothing secret. and yoou know them better than Vincent Koh or Joseph Yu... |
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« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2009, 11:22:07 PM » |
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and yoou know them better than Vincent Koh or Joseph Yu...
I don't know what Vincent Koh is teaching. Joseph Yo has no idea of how to interpret Shen Sha. In fact, I made it to a hobby of mine to collect some of his ridiculous comments on Shen Sha. |
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« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2009, 11:28:15 PM » |
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and yoou know them better than Vincent Koh or Joseph Yu...
I don't know what Vincent Koh is teaching. Joseph Yo has no idea of how to interpret Shen Sha. In fact, I made it to a hobby of mine to collect some of his ridiculous comments on Shen Sha. which comments? |
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« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2009, 12:44:44 AM » |
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which comments?
I am sure you can find quite a few on his Four Pillar list. I got them from a student of his, as I am not a member. Look specifically for the one where he compares Shen Sha to an appendix in the human body. It's real cute and shows a lot about his understanding. |
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« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2009, 12:16:53 AM » |
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which comments?
I am sure you can find quite a few on his Four Pillar list. I got them from a student of his, as I am not a member. Look specifically for the one where he compares Shen Sha to an appendix in the human body. It's real cute and shows a lot about his understanding. thats the one i mentioned at fpning, but i deleted the thrad "too much of a good thing" cause i was tired of it. anyway i prefer Zi Wei, im not much into the bazi thing now |
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« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2009, 12:18:33 AM » |
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and yoou know them better than Vincent Koh or Joseph Yu...
I don't know what Vincent Koh is teaching. Joseph Yo has no idea of how to interpret Shen Sha. In fact, I made it to a hobby of mine to collect some of his ridiculous comments on Shen Sha. ? Dont you know Vincent`s book " unveil your destiny".? Its one of the oldest and talks about Shen Sha |
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« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2009, 01:45:45 AM » |
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Dont you know Vincent`s book " unveil your destiny".? Its one of the oldest and talks about Shen Sha
Now its starting to get ridiculous. This book does not talk about Shen Sha, it does not much more than mentioning them. I told I don't know what Vincent Koh is teaching as I don't know about his life classes. If you have nothing better to bring up here, I go back in hibernation. Take care |
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« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2009, 02:31:16 AM » |
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Dont you know Vincent`s book " unveil your destiny".? Its one of the oldest and talks about Shen Sha
Now its starting to get ridiculous. This book does not talk about Shen Sha, it does not much more than mentioning them. I told I don't know what Vincent Koh is teaching as I don't know about his life classes. If you have nothing better to bring up here, I go back in hibernation. Take care i didnt start this thread expecting answers from you so please feel free to go hibernate |
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« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2009, 12:34:09 PM » |
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1) I don't agree that Yang Ren is more lethal in the hour 2) I don't agree that Yang Ren has to be lethal at all. It could for example indicate that the person has a mild temperament  3) Note that some practitioners (incl. myself) believe that Yin DM has Yang Ren 4) Not yet the right time for you to teach about Shen Sha bzsm It has already explain clearly for the type of Yang Ren & the condition for it to be lethal in chinese. Look below 劫财阳刃，最忌时柱上遇到，如果又加上“岁运并临”，那么灾殃立至。阳刃在时柱上遇见，灾祸比年、月、日柱遇见要重得多。比如甲日主生人，时柱上见乙卯，就是真阳刃。命局中既然遇到真阳刃，那么伤妻破财的灾祸已经在劫难逃，如果流年太岁和大运再遇到羊刃，就叫“岁运并临”；流年上见到己酉是冲犯太岁星君，见到亥、未、戌是合太岁星君。阳刃是凶煞，太岁是凶神，太岁得到吉神相扶或相合则吉，如果阳刃等凶煞来冲、合岁君，叫做“攒凶聚煞”，难免大祸临头。这就是所谓“阳刃冲合岁君，勃然祸至”。 You got any other chinese text to support your 1st comments? 如果阳刃等凶煞来冲、合岁君，叫做“攒凶聚煞”，难免大祸临头。这就是所谓“阳刃冲合岁君，勃然祸至”。 This text already explain why Yang Ren is lethal on the above condition. So why do you made your 2nd comment "It could for example indicate that the person has a mild temperament" ? 阳刃只有甲、丙、戊、庚、壬这五个阳干才有，而乙、丁、己、辛、癸五个阴干没有刃，这也是为什么叫“阳刃”的道理之一。五阴干只以见伤官相当于阳刃的灾祸，所以乙日主见丙火有时也称为“刃”，因为丙火伤害乙木的正官庚金，合辛金七煞克伤乙木，阴金克阴木是至毒，所以凶与阳刃相同。 This text already explain why it is call yang ren and not yin ren and the condition for yin ren to be lethal. Let us see how you explain yourself before i comment on point 4. |
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« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2009, 05:22:45 PM » |
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1) I don't agree that Yang Ren is more lethal in the hour 2) I don't agree that Yang Ren has to be lethal at all. It could for example indicate that the person has a mild temperament 3) Note that some practitioners (incl. myself) believe that Yin DM has Yang Ren 4) Not yet the right time for you to teach about Shen Sha bzsm It has already explain clearly for the type of Yang Ren & the condition for it to be lethal in chinese. Look below 劫财阳刃，最忌时柱上遇到，如果又加上“岁运并临”，那么灾殃立至。阳刃在时柱上遇见，灾祸比年、月、日柱遇见要重得多。比如甲日主生人，时柱上见乙卯，就是真阳刃。命局中既然遇到真阳刃，那么伤妻破财的灾祸已经在劫难逃，如果流年太岁和大运再遇到羊刃，就叫“岁运并临”；流年上见到己酉是冲犯太岁星君，见到亥、未、戌是合太岁星君。阳刃是凶煞，太岁是凶神，太岁得到吉神相扶或相合则吉，如果阳刃等凶煞来冲、合岁君，叫做“攒凶聚煞”，难免大祸临头。这就是所谓“阳刃冲合岁君，勃然祸至”。 You got any other chinese text to support your 1st comments? 如果阳刃等凶煞来冲、合岁君，叫做“攒凶聚煞”，难免大祸临头。这就是所谓“阳刃冲合岁君，勃然祸至”。 This text already explain why Yang Ren is lethal on the above condition. So why do you made your 2nd comment "It could for example indicate that the person has a mild temperament" ? 阳刃只有甲、丙、戊、庚、壬这五个阳干才有，而乙、丁、己、辛、癸五个阴干没有刃，这也是为什么叫“阳刃”的道理之一。五阴干只以见伤官相当于阳刃的灾祸，所以乙日主见丙火有时也称为“刃”，因为丙火伤害乙木的正官庚金，合辛金七煞克伤乙木，阴金克阴木是至毒，所以凶与阳刃相同。 This text already explain why it is call yang ren and not yin ren and the condition for yin ren to be lethal. Let us see how you explain yourself before i comment on point 4. Can you translate the chinese part? thanks |
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« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2009, 11:31:54 PM » |
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Hi slayer bazisuanming claim to know Shen Sha. Let give him a chance to prove himself how much he know about chinese shen sha. I m sure you will like to see how much brain juice he have right... hahaha |
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« Reply #29 on: November 26, 2009, 11:40:49 PM » |
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Hi slayer bazisuanming claim to know Shen Sha. Let give him a chance to prove himself how much he know about chinese shen sha. I m sure you will like to see how much brain juice he have right... hahaha Seems he has given up |
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