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« on: April 10, 2010, 09:09:09 PM »

lech kaczinky

what do you make of his chat?


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makes no sense. Travel palaces have Lu
 
18 june 1949 02.45 warsaw,poland
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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2010, 11:38:30 AM »

Hi slayer,

Thanks for this great chart.  1949/6/18 1:00am to 2:59am

It is very appropriate to show the mistake of reading chart from just 1 or 2 stars.  His decade travel palace having Lu is as per the San He Zi Wei Dou Shu method.  Technically the most you can say of this Lu is that he has lots of chance to travel.  You cannot say his travel luck is good which is what the mistaken impression most San He Zi Wei Practitioners have when they see Lu.

This chart Travel, Health Palace has multiple clashes as revealed in the method I am using.  That's why I thank you for this chart which appropriately fits in to the methodology I am adopting.  It is not a case of fitting my methodology to the event after knowing what transpired.
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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2010, 02:34:40 PM »

hi slayer/Ken,
coincidentally, i was also looking at this case from bazi yesterday, but i dun hv the time then.

Chart:
            DM                        LP   AP
yi      *  ji    * geng *  ji      Jia  Geng
chou * mao *  wu   * chou  Zi    Yin

Strong chart which favors Output (Geng) and 7k (Wood).  The LP already activated 7 of 8 elements.  Taking out Fire by Zi, chart effectively becomes Wood fighting with Metal and Earth.  With Yin providing the root, Wood can break down Earth and take Out Metal which has no root.  If we consider the month of incident, we have a Yin Mao Chen wood structure, plus Geng again.  This seems a case where favorable fighting favorable. 
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2010, 08:09:57 PM »

Hi slayer,

Thanks for this great chart.  1949/6/18 1:00am to 2:59am

It is very appropriate to show the mistake of reading chart from just 1 or 2 stars.  His decade travel palace having Lu is as per the San He Zi Wei Dou Shu method.  Technically the most you can say of this Lu is that he has lots of chance to travel.  You cannot say his travel luck is good which is what the mistaken impression most San He Zi Wei Practitioners have when they see Lu.

This chart Travel, Health Palace has multiple clashes as revealed in the method I am using.  That's why I thank you for this chart which appropriately fits in to the methodology I am adopting.  It is not a case of fitting my methodology to the event after knowing what transpired.

His foreign relations werent too good. Which clashes do you see to travel palace?

What about mine.? A Indian astrologer told me i should avoid moving until august and that ill be in poor luck till then here too. Does zwei confirms that?
I have no experience with Indian astrology anyway
9 jan 1962 wei hour
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« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2010, 11:33:11 AM »

Hi slayer,

His decade behavior palace also self clash  :Smiley.  That explains why his foreign relations is no good.  Everything can be seen in the Zi Wei Dou Shu chart and is definitely not a case of massaging the reasons after I know the event that happened.

Anyway, difficult to explain clash under the method I am practising.  If you ever travel to Singaproe, let me know, I can teach you in a classroom environment.
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« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2010, 02:03:20 AM »

Hi slayer,

His decade behavior palace also self clash  :Smiley.  That explains why his foreign relations is no good.  Everything can be seen in the Zi Wei Dou Shu chart and is definitely not a case of massaging the reasons after I know the event that happened.

Anyway, difficult to explain clash under the method I am practising.  If you ever travel to Singaproe, let me know, I can teach you in a classroom environment.

The Polish president died in an airplane crash last week.
He has a twin brother who was born 45 minutes earlier, but both have the same 4 pillars chart.
Jaroslaw was born at 2 am, Lech at 2:45 am, but both are well within the Ox hour if we calculate true local solar time.
Yet, as we can see their lives differ quite a bit.
So it makes for a great study case.

This is the chart:

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Lech and Jaroslaw Kaczynski
Male
Warsaw * Poland
Born: 18 June 1949      02:45 and 2:00   Daylight Savings
Timezone: +1 (Central Europ. Time)
Longitude: 21 E 0      Latitude: 52 N 15

Hour: Yi Chou (Yin Wood Ox)
Day: Ji Mao (Yin Earth Rabbit)
Month: Geng Wu (Yang Metal Horse)
Year: Ji Chou (Yin Earth Ox)

Conception: Xin You (Yin Metal Rooster)
Life: Jia Xu (Yang Wood Dog)
Moon: Yi You (Yin Wood Rooster)

10 Y Luck (11/4/1953)
Age 3 - 12 : Ji Si (Yin Earth Snake)
Age 13 - 22 : Wu Chen (Yang Earth Dragon)
Age 23 - 32 : Ding Mao (Yin Fire Rabbit)
Age 33 - 42 : Bing Yin (Yang Fire Tiger)
Age 43 - 52 : Yi Chou (Yin Wood Ox)
Age 53 - 62 : Jia Zi (Yang Wood Rat)
Age 63 - 72 : Gui Hai (Yin Water Pig)
-----

The current Jia Zi luck period clashes completely with their MP.
This takes out the only Fire-Resource in the chart.

The day of the accident was 10 April: Metal Tiger year, Metal Dragon month, Metal Tiger day.
The plane reportedly crashed and burned right at the start of Metal Snake Hour.

Tiger and Dragon make a directional combination of Wood with the Rabbit DB.
So Wood was very strong on this day and with the only Fire in the chart clashed away, the Wood is no longer bridged to the Earth DM.

Stems are full with Metal on the moment of the crash, Branches are full with Wood.
The airplane(Metal) reportedly touched the trees (Wood) while trying to land in poor visibility (Fire/light clashed away)

Tiger also happens to be Death God (Wang Shen) in this chart.


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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2010, 02:07:17 AM »

Hi slayer,

His decade behavior palace also self clash  :Smiley.  That explains why his foreign relations is no good.  Everything can be seen in the Zi Wei Dou Shu chart and is definitely not a case of massaging the reasons after I know the event that happened.

Anyway, difficult to explain clash under the method I am practising.  If you ever travel to Singaproe, let me know, I can teach you in a classroom environment.

di jie opposite Di kong??
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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2010, 10:53:52 AM »

Hi Slayer,

Di Jie opposite Di Kong is just a small disruption that although may disrupt some people, have no devastasting effect on others at all.  You will be amaze to see that CEOs of top MNCs have Di Kong Di Jie in their "Ownself" Palaces. That's why I encourage people to pick up Flying Star ZWDS instead.  There's no ambiguity at all.

As for his twin brother Jaroslaw, do you have any writeup of events surrounding him?  Recently I have done some twin charts and would welcome this twin chart also.  Anyway, twins will always have significantly different lives even if born only minutes apart.

As for using True Solar time, I have my doubts.  The logic is attractive to those schooled and trained under hard science principles but destiny and luck is also dependent on the socio-economic system and not entirely on the Sun's influence.
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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2010, 06:17:42 PM »

Hi Slayer,

Di Jie opposite Di Kong is just a small disruption that although may disrupt some people, have no devastasting effect on others at all.  You will be amaze to see that CEOs of top MNCs have Di Kong Di Jie in their "Ownself" Palaces. That's why I encourage people to pick up Flying Star ZWDS instead.  There's no ambiguity at all.

As for his twin brother Jaroslaw, do you have any writeup of events surrounding him?  Recently I have done some twin charts and would welcome this twin chart also.  Anyway, twins will always have significantly different lives even if born only minutes apart.

As for using True Solar time, I have my doubts.  The logic is attractive to those schooled and trained under hard science principles but destiny and luck is also dependent on the socio-economic system and not entirely on the Sun's influence.

So you use clocktime even if there is DST?
I got di jie in Ming
I dont know anything about his twin father yet
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