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« on: June 11, 2010, 06:09:19 AM »

Hi everyone.

I am trying to find out what the extra two pillars are for:  The Life Pillar and the Conception Pillar.

There is no mention of these two pillars on wikipedia, fortuneangel or even in a random google engine search.

I did see it included in a BaZi calculator and if you want I can send the link including these two extra pillars.

Does anyone have any info of this?
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« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2010, 03:05:20 PM »

胎元

胎, 指人受精怀胎的月份. 其起法是: 人生月后紧接着这个月的天干与生月后第三个月的地支相配, 就为胎元. 如1998年八月生人, 八月为辛酉, 辛后一干是壬, 酉后第三个月地支是子, 则壬子为其胎元.

    胎元生命为吉, 克命不利.戊寅年辛酉月, 壬子为胎元, 戊寅纳音为土, 壬子纳音为木, 木克土不利命. 胎月见贵, 必受福荫. 刑冲破害, 决主艰辛. 鬼谷子说: "胎中如有禄, 生在富贵家, 或值空亡中, 贫穷起怨嗟." 胎元干支与生时干支纳音相生主长寿, 如果和时干支刑战克害主寿短. 又讲, 胎元临帝旺, 必然高寿.

It easily found in chinese website. You just need to google it using chinese words.
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« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2010, 04:22:09 PM »

  胎元生命为吉, 克命不利.戊寅年辛酉月, 壬子为胎元, 戊寅纳音为土, 壬子纳音为木, 木克土不利命. 胎月见贵, 必受福荫. 刑冲破害, 决主艰辛.

Tai yuan give birth to year pillar is aupisious. Tai yuan clash with year pillar is inauspicious. 戊寅 wu Yin year 辛酉 xin you mth, 壬子 ren zi as Tai yuan. Wu yin nayin as earth, ren zi nayin as wood, wood ke earth not auspious. Tai yuan meet Guiren, certainly will receive good fortune/luck. When Tai yuan meet punishment, clash, destroy or harm, likely will live a life of hardship.

  鬼谷子说: "胎中如有禄, 生在富贵家, 或值空亡中, 贫穷起怨嗟." 胎元干支与生时干支纳音相生主长寿, 如果和时干支刑战克害主寿短. 又讲, 胎元临帝旺, 必然高寿.

Gui Hui Zi said if Tai got LU, born in wealthy noble family. If fall into Kong Wang, could be born in poor family with lots of complain. If tai yuan nayin and hour pillar nayin is in production cycle mean long life. If in clash, harm, punishment, mean having a short life. If Tai yuan is in Youth stage, mean having a long life. 
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« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2010, 10:44:59 PM »

胎元

胎, 指人受精怀胎的月份. 其起法是: 人生月后紧接着这个月的天干与生月后第三个月的地支相配, 就为胎元. 如1998年八月生人, 八月为辛酉, 辛后一干是壬, 酉后第三个月地支是子, 则壬子为其胎元.

    胎元生命为吉, 克命不利.戊寅年辛酉月, 壬子为胎元, 戊寅纳音为土, 壬子纳音为木, 木克土不利命. 胎月见贵, 必受福荫. 刑冲破害, 决主艰辛. 鬼谷子说: "胎中如有禄, 生在富贵家, 或值空亡中, 贫穷起怨嗟." 胎元干支与生时干支纳音相生主长寿, 如果和时干支刑战克害主寿短. 又讲, 胎元临帝旺, 必然高寿.

It easily found in chinese website. You just need to google it using chinese words.

Ahhh..... oh dear I don't know many chinese words or their characters.
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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2010, 10:47:30 PM »

  胎元生命为吉, 克命不利.戊寅年辛酉月, 壬子为胎元, 戊寅纳音为土, 壬子纳音为木, 木克土不利命. 胎月见贵, 必受福荫. 刑冲破害, 决主艰辛.

Tai yuan give birth to year pillar is aupisious. Tai yuan clash with year pillar is inauspicious. 戊寅 wu Yin year 辛酉 xin you mth, 壬子 ren zi as Tai yuan. Wu yin nayin as earth, ren zi nayin as wood, wood ke earth not auspious. Tai yuan meet Guiren, certainly will receive good fortune/luck. When Tai yuan meet punishment, clash, destroy or harm, likely will live a life of hardship.

  鬼谷子说: "胎中如有禄, 生在富贵家, 或值空亡中, 贫穷起怨嗟." 胎元干支与生时干支纳音相生主长寿, 如果和时干支刑战克害主寿短. 又讲, 胎元临帝旺, 必然高寿.

Gui Hui Zi said if Tai got LU, born in wealthy noble family. If fall into Kong Wang, could be born in poor family with lots of complain. If tai yuan nayin and hour pillar nayin is in production cycle mean long life. If in clash, harm, punishment, mean having a short life. If Tai yuan is in Youth stage, mean having a long life. 


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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2010, 04:36:21 PM »

Tai yuan is Chinese pronunciation for 胎元 which is also know as Conception Pillar.

If u are self-learning bazi it will be tough. Without knowing Chinese classic it will be a bigger challenge for u.
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