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« on: July 07, 2008, 11:22:29 AM »

Along my course of meeting people interested in destiny analysis, I have seen a lot of people with misconception about what is destiny and what is one's outcome.

A lot of people wallow in self pity, blaming luck and destiny for their problems in life.  It is true destiny plays a huge part in our lives because it sets the parameters for us.  That is to say, if our destiny chart do not depict the potential of Bill Gates, we can forget about aspiring to be Bill Gates, even if we have the best Fengshui master to guide us or the best NLP (Neuro Linguistic Programming) guru realise our potential.

But if we look beyond this, most of us are currently operating at only 55 - 70% of our maximum potential only.  If we make good decisions and adopt good choices, we can easily achieve much more than status quo.  Don't underestimate the impact of merely making good choices and correct decisions.  I have seen somone with a grade B chart outperform someone with a grade A chart because the grade B chart owner has made the right decisions.

At the same time, I have also seen people with grade C charts mired in mediocrity.  The purpose of knowing Bazi or ZWDS is not so much to tell you to stop trying to improve yourself.  It is more so to let us understand we each have our own limits which we must come to terms with, as well as to let us identify our competent areas to focus on and maximise our outcomes.

Sadly, I still see a lot of people who become negative after knowing the defects their chart depict.  But of course, there are some that are in much better shape after understanding their destiny charts, because they weed out the problematic areas in their life to stop letting such negative aspects affect their lives and decisions.
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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2008, 05:57:33 PM »

hi Ken

i think i understand what u meant.

however, i found that wealth, status, power, jobs, are easy to get. as long as one focus and perform within his ability should not be any major problem.

here are my findings, not new anyway,

only one thing beside health, that is LOVE. the object of focus is a living thing, can think and decide for itself. thus even if one focus or perform within his/her ability,there is no garranty. the front is misty. in fact, the more one focus, the more one lose the love.

i suggest in astrology analysis to focus on LOVE and focus on the person in LOVE are 2 different issue.
LOVE itself is just like stocks, and stocks itself has so many different type of listings-object of romantic persue.

boosting LOVE may not be BOOsting the probability the Person of LOve to love the client. i suspect its just boosting the probability of creating a new branch of love. lol..

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Case study 1

male, 20 jan 84 hour of cow.

yy
mm
dd
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gui pig

yi cow

gui cow

gui cow

as all know, this guy weak in romance luck. hard to attract opposite gender.

actual ground situations:

have lots of girl friends but not romantic girl friends. will lose a girl friend if he try to bring her up to romantic lvl due to rejection.
in dates, somehow something will happen to either side and dates cancelled. 


conclusions:

obviously this guy is lack of experiences but who started out with experience?
other factors like laws of attraction are hard to explain.
i think the road for him to collect experience is tough.
so the issue now is i think boost his LOVE luck so that he could continue to meet woman to increase his probabilties of success rather than to boost the target of love to love the client which most of people i met are thinking of instead of the LOVE as a whole itself.

pls comment.

FHL

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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2008, 06:24:06 PM »

Hi Firehorselord,

I agree wholeheartedly on the romance portion.  Romance is always tougher than career and wealth, because it takes more than 1 hand to clap and more often than not does not run on logic.

For example, in your career, if you make the right choices, work hard enough, your superior will still have no choice but to give you the chances to advance because it is a logical decision and most of the input depends on you, 1 person.

But for romance, no matter how much effort you put, if the other party doesn't like you, she won't change her mind because liking is not always a logical decision.  But if we sit back to think a bit, a person is not really that poor off in life if he/she has no romance.  But he/she is much poorer off if he has no income from career/business.

But of course, questions and help on romance are one of the most highly sought after by readers or customers of Chinese astrology.  It is possible to focus the Fengshui to get good romances.

This guy romance luck will be in horse years or goat years.

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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2008, 06:40:44 PM »

Firehorselord,

Anyway, not withstanding my comments that affairs of the heart are indeed tougher to manage, some of the time for some people, it is not the lack of opportunity but a matter of being choosy, or not being cognizant of the situation or indecisive in seizing the situation.
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« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2008, 02:35:33 AM »

Firehorselord,

Anyway, not withstanding my comments that affairs of the heart are indeed tougher to manage, some of the time for some people, it is not the lack of opportunity but a matter of being choosy, or not being cognizant of the situation or indecisive in seizing the situation.

True. all these adds up to LOVE management. lol...
on the market there are lots of astro books on LOVE. and they sounded so easy. haha..

i believe Maslow's hierarchy of need- love is one of the important basic needs. haha.. though not as bad as w/o food and $ but still its the union of yin and yiang i suppose?? to be a healthy person. haha..


p/s: ken ur ang mo very chim. wonder u from hcjc or rjc. lol..

FHL

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« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2008, 11:14:07 AM »

HI Firehorselord,

Maslow's theory probably applies to humans in general but as Bazi/Ziwei practitioner, I believe there are some people that don't need soul companions or marriage.  Smiley

I come from English educated school but always speaks Mandarin to the ire of my English teachers  Grin
But I am not from HCJC or RJC.

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« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2008, 07:13:56 PM »

HI Firehorselord,

Maslow's theory probably applies to humans in general but as Bazi/Ziwei practitioner, I believe there are some people that don't need soul companions or marriage.  Smiley

I come from English educated school but always speaks Mandarin to the ire of my English teachers  Grin
But I am not from HCJC or RJC.



hahaha what is the meaning of IRE ?
u siad u were english educated school, unless those born 1950-60s they will have a choice to chinese shcools, other then that Mr. LKY closed down chinese schools liaoz worx.. the 1st language that u acquire is mandrin? or dialect? or ang mo?

btw, one palm reader said to me i am those type that dun need companionship. lol.. super sniper... actually quite true oso. i like to travel and become immortal.. hahaa crazy liaoz.. i think i have disintegrate into evil..

FHL

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« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2008, 11:47:49 PM »

Hi Firehorselord,

Ire means anger or irritation.

I know what you mean.  But during my time some schools are still distinctly reputed for producing "eat potato" while other schools for producing "cheena".

You definitely sound happy go lucky.  When I have time maybe I should read your Zi Wei Dou Shu (ZWDS) chart.

Anyway, I wanted to add that choice also make a difference in our outcome.  One good example is the late Anita Mui (Mei Yan Fang), the famous Hong Kong artiste.  In her chart, she was destined to be afflicted with cancer but not to die.  But she did not seek treatment early and thus the outcome was changed completely.

Do not blame Heaven or destiny for the choice that one makes.
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« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2008, 11:53:03 PM »

firehorse you damn funny lor haha...I felt so entertained!
Anyway, do you think the outcome in life will be the same even if you decided to make a 'good' decision? How are you to be sure it is a good one? And by taking another choice, will it affect someone else?(haha I must have watched too much drama...butterfly effect)
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« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2008, 01:08:44 AM »

hahah

i dint know i am entertaining... haha...thanks for ur appreciation.
sounds like the 5 people we will meet in heaven. the part on networking, be it directly and indirectly.
i am sure there will and thats how karma works. lol..

but the matter is not on a good choice or not. its like u have a choice, but its multiple choice. so do we really have a choice? sometimes i feel like choosing none of the above or refuse to make any choice. lol... but again, its infinite coz itself is already a choice. as the Dao De Jing goes xxxxxxxxx.. haha 1st chapt, 1st sentence explained everything, yet nothing.  Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? :Smiley :Smiley

i find life is just like stocks. we are drawing money from karma bank, see which life use finished then yea.. enter nirvana. haha rubbish.. i disintegrate into evil liaoz..  Lips Sealed Angry Lips Sealed Lips Sealed Angry Angry
what ya think?

FHL
Cheers

p/s; flexon u are Sgrean meh?  Huh? :Smiley Huh? :Smiley Huh? :Smiley Huh? :Smiley :Smiley Huh? Huh?

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« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2008, 01:50:48 AM »

ken,

thanks in advance. Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2008, 01:43:03 AM »

Hi Firehorselord,

I agree wholeheartedly on the romance portion.  Romance is always tougher than career and wealth, because it takes more than 1 hand to clap and more often than not does not run on logic.

For example, in your career, if you make the right choices, work hard enough, your superior will still have no choice but to give you the chances to advance because it is a logical decision and most of the input depends on you, 1 person.

But for romance, no matter how much effort you put, if the other party doesn't like you, she won't change her mind because liking is not always a logical decision.  But if we sit back to think a bit, a person is not really that poor off in life if he/she has no romance.  But he/she is much poorer off if he has no income from career/business.

But of course, questions and help on romance are one of the most highly sought after by readers or customers of Chinese astrology.  It is possible to focus the Fengshui to get good romances.

This guy romance luck will be in horse years or goat years.



this guy who will have romance in the horse and pig yrs...
doesnt the cow clash with sheep(goat)?
if there is a clash how can you get?

i did hear that the horse is a peach blossom for the cow and pig...
so that is why the its in horse yrs?

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« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2008, 04:55:35 PM »

Hi alreadystressed,

Clash does not mean destruction of all things  Wink
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« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2008, 08:58:42 PM »

hi alreadystress

i borrow the idea from ken, sometimes the chart is tied up. a clash can open up the situation.
btw, if u dun mind changing a new nick? subconciously ur mind will attract stress worx... will it?
just a suggestion. dun kick me pls..  Tongue

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« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2008, 04:45:15 AM »

So i suppose of good clash open bad situation?
Bad clash open good situation?

Yes I might change the name.
I know that neg words can give back neg energy
universe will give back whatever you give out



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